Relationship symptoms and conditions

After reading these posts, I am glad I didn't change my mind about having the MIUD removed. I have had all sorts of problems since that evil piece of plastic was inserted. I didn't think much of it at first and thought maybe I am just tired because I have my period and cramps alllllll the time. The relationship I was in was bad and thought maybe I was tired and moody because of that. After a couple of months - boyfriend free - things didn't change. I had horrible mood swings, my concentration was shot. My work ethic went down the toliet, I felt like a 10 year old kid with ADD. No energy, back hurt on a regular basis, carpal tunnel came back with a vengence and TMJ (I don't know if that's related but I've never had it before), acne, weight gain, no sex drive, and a constant itching around my neck. I am sure the NP was ready to try to talk me out of it and wait the full 6 months for "side effects" to go away. Well, the last 5 sucked, I really didn't want to deal with this crap any longer, besides with the price of gas, I can't afford the money for the regular buying of feminine products. I am only 6 hours free of this and I am already feeling a little better. I don't have that "pressure" you feel in your belly and a have bit more energy. I am so looking forward to the next few weeks when things start to get back to normal!!! If you have any doubts about this thing....get rid of it. Its really not that bad to get it out, 99 times less painful than getting it inserted!!!

Hi all. My DH has been taking Geodon for 5 months for "delusion - other". The docs don't feel he's bi-polar or schizophrenic. He started up on 20mg and was taken all the way up to 160mg at night until he got ridiculously drowsy on this drug from that dose. He was having issues getting up in the morning (even after 9 1/2+ hours of sleep the night before) and was getting scared of driving to work as out of it as he'd be. The doc took him down to 120mg and it was still bad. So, then they dropped him down to 80mg and he started experiencing severe anxiety. He said he felt like his chest was closing in on him. So, now he's on 100mg and still tired, but not as bad.

Don't get me wrong.. if this was the only issue, I'd be fine with it. The Geodon was a godsend, at first. It really made his delusion dissipate (he wanted to run off and preach the word of God on street corners) and he was able to go back to working 8-hour days after a few months.

But now that he's gotten past that (he's had this once before, 6 years ago, and they had him on risperdal and depakote until the delusion was gone and then took him off of everything completely) he is BEYOND depressed. He has no history whatsoever of depression and has never felt this way before.Our family has never seen him like this. It's increasingly interfering with our relationship, as he just stares at me blankly if I happen to get upset about anything. He's just completely dead inside and feeling worthless. He can't even have an emotional conversation with me anymore and he used to be the most attentive, wonderful husband and friend he could ever be before he got on Geodon.

He also has zero interest in sex. I mean, he can go through it just fine, but he just doesn't want it on his own. And that's depressing for me!!

All in all, I want him off this drug as it seems that, once it did its job, it's eating away at his cognitive and emotional sides. He has a hard time reasoning and, of course, then ends up getting depressed because he feels worthless at his job. I just don't get it.

My question is: if he should happen to be bi-polar ( I mean, if the docs have all gotten it wrong) and he's going through a depressive phase, shouldn't the Geodon be helping? He just seems to get more and more depressed as gets further and further away from being delusional.

We're going to the doc on Thursday and I'm going to tell him that I want DH off this med.. no matter what he thinks. We just can't keep going through this crud anymore. I'd appreciate any feedback/advice/empathy you all can give.

I just miss my husband and I feel like this drug is running him into the ground and wrecking our marriage. :(

I am 29 year old type 1 Diabetic. I am healthy and regularly exercise. I recently moved to the east side of London from West London. My new GP would not prescribe Lipostatins that I was on (10mg) and chose to put me on 40mg Simvastatin. I finished my course of Lipostatins and started on Sims' about a month ago. I have only just clocked a relation to the change in drugs to why I feel so exhausted, depressed (nearly finished my relationship because of feeling so low), have pains in my hands and my ankles feel weak (I play football and really my ankles feel weak in comparison to last month).
My GP did not even give me any side effect warnings. I am stopping these drugs immediately for my sanity and the people around me.

I've been taking Doxy for only about a week now but since I've been taking it I have been experiencing a burning feeling in my stomach and extreme nausea. I came to this site today after throwing up my breakfast. Reading all these posts only to realize that Doxy not only caused my Nausea problem but problems in my relationship with my boyfriend! I had to apologize to him yesterday after blowing up (several times) crying for stupid reason and being extremely depressed. He thought I was unhappy with him and was about to break up but I told him that I thought my hormones were just not in synch. Now I realized that this drug caued my depression...eeesh! I am relieved to find out I am not crazy. I just got off the phone with him and he's relieved too. I'm going to continue my prescription because I only have a few more days left of it. I feel bad for those of you that were prescribed it for such a long period of time.

I'm 21 yrs old and have been on Yasmin for about 3 years, I've loved it - well I thought I did. I have been with my boyfriend for 2 years now, and this past year has just been really hard. I'll love our relationship one day and the next not be able to stand it and I love him more than anything. Over the past year I've experienced extreme mood swings, anxiety, haven't been able to handle stress - I've been breaking out in rashes at least once a month and really think it's because of this pill. I've also lost a lot of weight in the past year, I've been getting headaches everyday some to the point that I have to go to sleep because I can't think it's soo bad, I've had no motivation to do anything I have always, up to this point, loved doing. I've tried many anti depressants and have been off of them for about 2 years now, and have been thinking of going back on them because of the thoughts and feelings I've been experiencing. I thought it was just me, maybe there was something wrong with me? I've been on this pill for so long, who would've thought that it's just now causing these symptoms?
Yesterday I layed out by the pool for about an hour and when I got inside I noticed all these bumps on my arms that itched really bad, but they also hurt, so this morning I googled "sun bumps" and found that it can be cause from birth control pills, so then I googled "side effects of Yasmin" and I found this site. I am absolutely amazed at how many other women are experiencing exactly what I've been going through! I cannot believe that doctors don't bother mentioning all of these side effects to you, I'm absolutely terrified to go off of them because of the weight gain and also the mood swings I will more than likely experience. I got on the pill so I would have a normal period and it's really helped in that aspect, the craping isn't as bad, but the mood swings have definitely gotten worse.
I have called and left a message with my doctor to speak with her about what I've been going through now that I have a pretty solid idea that it's being caused from this pill.

OMG!!! I thought I was the only one feeling like I was losing my mind on this stuff. Since I've been taking Yaz, I've had zero sex drive. If I'm lucky I might get 20min of a good sex drive. I've also had mood swings that make Naomi Campbell look like a two year old having a tantrum. I've had more arguments with my husband in one day, than I've had in our entire relationship. I cry about everything. Sometimes I cry and I don't even know what I'm crying about. Yaz is the worst thing on the market.

I’ve had two goes at taking Yasmin first time at 23, I had all of the above symptoms a breakdown and big anxiety attack which has never happen to me before so that came out of the blue, I was suspicious about the pill so I stopped taking it after that.

But silly me about at now 25 years old second time around I thought maybe it was me and not the pill but the second time has really confirmed it for me. I’ve suffered worse depressed suicidal thoughts sadness and not to mention no interest in sex all… these things have really affected my relationship with my partner and friends.

I am angry with myself for trying it again worst mistake… but now I guess its confirmed for me ill never be putting any type of birth control pill in my body again its not natural and not good for you.

And I will also mention I was on a totally different pill during high school because I had very bad period pain and my doctor recommended it and looking back now, I was at that time a very hostile and depressed girl everyone thought I was going through teenage adolescence and worried about me… but I now believe it was the pill because I never understood why I hated the world so much at school. Now I know that I will never put my children on these types of contraceptives and I hope other mothers think twice.

the nausea was immediate, and I assumed that was the only side effect. Mind you my first 24-48 hours I started to feel so depressed about life and at night wanted a black hole to swallow me up. Eventually I was filled with panic and dread, never once questioning where this came from because hey, isn't life difficult sometimes? Eventually I went totally psycho on my boyfriend, who is coincidentally on the verge of ending the relationship because he is suddenly not sure if it was the pill or me. When I realized my misery coincided with the exact time line of taking the pill, I looked up side effects online and felt such a wave of relief. Mind you, when I called my doctor's office on a Saturday morning for a switch they wanted me to go to an ER because they didn't want to be liable if I killed myself (the doctor said she never heard of such a side effect in any of her patients - do not let your doctor talk down to you just because her patient pool doesn't do tea time with her). I haven't taken the pill in two days and the nausea is gone and the only sadness I feel is the deep realization of how awful I felt. It's working its way throughout my body, and now I just hope my boyfriend finds the compassion to not hate me for going nuts on me. So when you all right how wonderful your men have been...I'm a wee bit jealous.

My side effects are severe bloating and complete lack of sex drive....at first I bled for days and days and called to have it removed and was told to wait a couple of weeks. I waited a couple of weeks and the bleeding was dimishing so I left it in. Then the light spotting continued and continued and so I made an appointment to have it removed. The nurse told me it was normal and that it would stop eventually and I may not have a period at all. I agreed to leave it in. She was correct in saying that things would even themselves out eventually but I still have the bloating and it's been 2 years now and I have a very light irritating period that is mainly brown spotting but it lasts for seven days straight and puts a real damper on the sex life that already has issues because I just don't feel like having sex. I don't feel attractive with that thing up there...it's uncomfortable and I feel pain in both ovaries on occasion. It's convenient in that it keeps me from getting pregnant but it's really sucky for the relationship when the man wants to do it all the time and the woman has no desire whatsoever. I find ways to avoid having sex or doing anything remotely sexual. It's crazy, I was never like this before. I like the fact that you don't have to remember anything as far as bc is concerned but they need to be honest with people when they recommend it. It has more side effects than birth control pills. I'm now starting to have chest pains and I've decided I think I'm going to have it removed and use condoms from now on. That's the only thing that keeps me from having issues. I just don't think our bodies were meant for all of these chemicals and I wish the doctors would get that through their heads and stop telling us we're crazy when we're not. We know our bodies better than anyone, you can't tell me this thing isn't causing problems in my body that I never had before. I have put off getting it removed because I know they are going to try to convince me to keep it and I don't feel like arguing but I'm to the point where I really want my life and my body back. I also want that extra 20 lbs to come off as I haven't been able to lose it since I had my daughter 2 years ago and had this thing inserted. So anyway, I'm with the rest of you with the crazy symptoms. Oh yea, I left off the fatigue and headaches that I get the week before I start my period. And oh yea, that mood swings are ridiculous. I hope someone is reading this. It's for real people.

I am so happy to hear this from all of you!! I am 26 years old and was diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease at 17. About 2 years ago my doctor switched me to Levoxyl and my whole life has changed. I got really irritable around my best friend's kids, sharp pain in my left ring finger, TOTAL LACK OF SEX DRIVE (which everyone thought was psychological), and I've become a total couch potato. My relationship with my boyfriend of two year has been up and down because of the lack of sex and laziness. I'm calling my doctor and asking to be switched from this. I am so happy all of you have written about this. Please keep me updated if changing meds has helped at all?

I have decided not to buy or take anymore Yasmin pills as my behavior had become outrageous with my fiance' after only taking them for about two weeks. I could not risk our relationship any longer. Thank you for your offers to sell but it is not worth it.

i have been on the nuvaring about 2yrs give or take. Just about 2mths ago i discovered having head aches. They have not gone away ever since. I have have blood work done, and mri. the mri showed i my jaw pops out of place when i open my mouth to wide. The doctor says that it looked lik TMJ but there to independent things. So he suggested to stop using my birth control. I called my gyno, she said that people have had cases of getting migraines but its unusual to be on it for so long and suddenly develop migraines. I have been on lots of medication nothing seems to work. She told me to stop taking it after my next menstrual cycle, im praying that this will cure my migraines.

Not really sure what to say here. Had my Mirena put in March 2007, 6 weeks after the birth of my second daughter. I had taken the pill before this, and twice I fell pregnant on it. I took it religiously, so obviously it just wasn't for me. I decided on Mirena, having heard many wonderful stories about it. I didn't find the procedure for inserting it painful or uncomfortable, but maybe this was because I had given birth such a short time before.
Shortly after having it, I began to feel depressed, and ever since I have been moody, irritable and quite hard to live with. I put this down to post natal depression, and my doctor was reluctant to give me any medication for it, his explanation being 'you've had a baby, your hormones are all over the place, you'll be fine'.
I came on here yesterday, a friend of mine asked me to research whether she could have the Mirena or not, she's got 2 little girls, the oldest just turned 2 and both were C-sections. Anyway, not to babble on . . ..
For the past few months, I've been living with demons in my head, I feel no energy, don't leave the house much, am totally depressed most of the time. My relationship is suffering, I'm very short tempered with my girls & husband.
I've thought about seeing my doctor to see if he can help with the depression, but now I'm wondering if this little piece of plastic is the root of my problems.
Before falling pregnant, I had lost 42lbs, abd I kept it all off during pregnancy through healthy eating. I came out of hospital 1lb lighter than when I fell pregnant. But In the past year, I've put every one of those 42lbs back on, and about 10lb more. I haven't been overeating, and I know I've not been 'dieting', but even after a few weeks of quite intensive exercising, this weight will not budge.
I am also hoping my husband will stumble across this page if I leave it on the pc, I really want him to realize that the 'raving lunatic' he's been living with for the past year or more might in fact not be me being the 'negative, bad person, but maybe that something which I chose to have inside me is the cause.
Now I'm at a point where I don't know what to do. Do I continue with the Mirena, or do I have it taken out? Can I live with the mood swings for another 3 years, indeed can my kids, can my husband? Or do I have it removed, and try find some other form of BC?
I would like to have another child or two in a few years time, so I don't want to do anything permanent, but I'm really in two minds on whther this 'coil' is worth the side effects. I have tears streaming down my face as I type this, tears of happiness that I've maybe found out what is wrong with me, tears of sadness because I don't know what to do .

My daughter was born in August of 2007; when I heard about Mirena, I was really excited. My sister in law has the copper IUD and loves it. I thought the Mirena was basically the same thing but with a different name. Boy was I wrong. I had the Mirena inserted in March 14, 2008 and ever since then, I feel like my life is slowly falling apart. I have gradually gained 6lbs despite being an avid running and eating well. During my cycle (I tend to gain anywhere from 3-4 lbs of water weight). For the first month, I bled for about 14 day straight, which was not a good time (ruined lots of nice pairs of underwear).
The worst side effect, for me, has been the mood swings; I think I'm psycho; I want to kill my husband most of the time, the poor guy. I have ZERO sex drive, which is also a huge problem for my relationship, so if I keep going at this rate, I think I can blame Mirena for a divorce. Fortunately, I am having this thine REMOVED TODAY!! I cannot wait! I feel as though I was "talked in to" getting the Mirena because I orginally said I wanted an IUD with NO hormones; for some reason though, I left the office with this horrible product. Something needs to be done about this product!
The insertion was not horrible, but it wasn't fun either.
Mirena is the devil!!

Hello,
Just thought I would add some pro nuvaring commentary to the chorus of horror stories here. I've been on the nuvaring for about two years now and so far I have no babies (yay!) and no side effects I could confidently link to the ring. Like most women I get headaches (about once a week or so), experience pms, and my sex drive is not what it was in the first few weeks of my relationship but I'm unwilling to ascribe any of these 'side effects' soley to the ring. In particular I find it difficult to believe as some of your postings indicate that the side effects of the ring seem to be worse than the pill- depression, weight gain (in one post 40-50 lbs!), headaches, etc. when the dosage or hormones is lower. So I guess simply put, I am satisfied with the ring and although it's not my place to criticize another woman's choice of birth control, I wouldn't let these posts scare you away from what is, in my experience, the best form of hormonal birth control based on its user-friendliness and lower dosage of hormones.

I was using the NuvaRing for about 6-7 months. I started feeling quite a bit out of my head. I figured being a college student and nearing my graduation; that I was just a little stressed out and nervous about the future.
School long gone now, and still feeling weird, I decided to take a look into the side effects of the NuvaRing, since I had noticed the slight changes in my mood sometime after I began taking it.
I started out with a severely decreased sex drive. I joked how "wow this birth control works by making you not want anything to do with sex!" After a while, it wasn't funny anymore. I became uninterested in doing anything. I didn't want to be around friends anymore. I started getting snappy and easily aggravated at people, mostly my boyfriend and the people I work with. I started getting headaches a lot, which didn't help my mood, and I started getting really bad eye sensitivity to lights, which didn't help the headaches at all...
I started feeling horrible. Nothing was worth looking forward to. I was always anxious or nervous. I felt useless. The relationship with my boyfriend of two years was hanging by a thin thread.

I came across all of your comments about your experiences with the NuvaRing and I'm so glad I'm not the only one; I thought I was going crazy.

I love how nice and convenient the NuvaRing seems to be, but there is really nothing convenient about the things it has done to my mind, body, and my relationships.

No birth control is worth that much aggravation. I stopped taking it 2 weeks early, about four days ago. No real signs of improvement yet, but I'm hopeful that I'll soon be the same kind of person my boyfriend started dating.

I'm hoping to find a new form of birth control, but I'm mortified to get on another type that does the same things...
Has anyone switched from the NuvaRing after these kinds of symptoms and found something that works and doesn't do horrible things?

I had to go off the NuvaRing after only 8 months of use. I gained about 40-50 lbs. And I became completely crazy. It almost ruined my relationship because I would have extreme emotions. It also threw my body into a simulated pregnancy. I looked like I was about 6 mos. pregnant. Even my nipples started to change, like in pregnancy. My body is still trying to get all of the hormones out. Everyone who knew me then and knows me now says I am a completely different person.

Wow! I'm not alone! I've been on the Nuvaring for about 8 months and have been miserable! I have had awful nausea on and off almost every day, gained about 8-10 pounds, constantly feel tired/unmotivated/fatigued, I get stressed out easily, have bad cramps and the worst of all- have NO sex drive. This has been a huge problem in my relationship! I kept trying to convince myself that it wasn't due to the ring because it's so convenient, but I finally went off it about a week ago. I still feel the side effects a bit, but hope they wear off soon. Thank God I found this site! Good luck to all!

hi everyone, ive been on loestrin fe 24 for 4 months now. Just began my 5th, my first month i was nauseous every day all day, even though i took my pill with breakfast. on my second pack i switched to taking the pill at 10pm (right b4 bed) the nausea feeling went away. on my 3rd and 4th pack ive been feeling nothing but pure depression for no reason almost everyday. i have a beautiful relationship with an amazing man and all i can think of is that he doesn't love me....deep down i know my feelings of depression and fear of loosing my fiancee are not real/true. but although i try to control my depression it doesn't work. i cry for no reason, i don't want to work or do anything at all. ive been having trouble sleeping and this morning woke up with crazy anxiety. after the depression scare and anxiety i experienced today i will not be taking my little white pill today. ill be calling my doctor and ask him to out me on something else, this depression needs to stop. i cant live my life in fear of loosing someone. if any of you have had similar effects to this high depression of loestrin pls post about it.

Hello everyone,
I just filled a prescription for Loestrin 24 and wanted to know a little more about this pill since I have never taken birth control pills b4. I have not started to take the pill as of yet, after reading these blogs I am a little hesitant to start taking them seeing all the complains against this pill. can anyone recommend a good BCP, with little site effects.

I had Mirena inserted after my first child was born on April 28, 2008. It has been approximately a month and I have complaints. Some of which are cramps all day everyday which has me resorting to taking 1600mg of Ibuprofen a day, low sex drive, crying at anything and everything, and bleeding non-stop, heavy to spotting. To say the least, my relationship is suffering, because rather than having sex four times a week, it is barely once a week. I contacted my GYN today as to discuss the aforementioned side effects as to determine if this is normal. I admit to not doing my research prior to inserting Mirena as I assumed that it was the most effective and safe form of contraceptive. See, I have tried several different pills and it was not effective and the side effects were more then I could bare. I decided today to research Mirena and realized I might have made a big mistake...Will write again when or if I have the Mirena removed after consulting with my GYN.

I have been on Yasmin for 3 years and everything seemed to be going okay,skin was great,moods were good and all was going to plan..until 6 weeks ago. I decided to go off the pill to give my body a break,during this time i was extremely moody and caused my boyfriend and i to have huge arguments all the time. So i decided to go back on it for the sake of our 6 year relationship.So i was off for a month then went back on it. Within 2 weeks of going back on it i started to feel anxious over the smallest things and had several uncontrollable panic attacks at very inconvenient times. At first i thought i was just run down but it started to happen everyday,on the tram,in social situations and finally even at home.Over nothing worth stressing about! As my heart would race i thought id go to the doctor and was put on a 24 holter ecg monitor to see if we could 'catch' the palpitations so it could be treated with medication. Nothing showed up,my levels were great and he couldn't give me an answer. I just happened to search Yasmin on the internet and found this website..and thank god i did!!I have been loosing my mind! I feel as tough i am loosing my spirit and becoming something that i am not.i can't do anything without being worried itl happen again,making me a nervous wreck. As soon as i read this website i went straight off it and have been off it for 3 weeks and i has not been fun! The first week i felt a little better,but the last two weeks have been hell! I feel weak,shakey,paranoid,over-stimulated,cold and clammy and wake up everyday feeling depressed and nauseous.I feel like screaming.I can't do anything i used to,i was a mad high level basketballer,went out to dance every weekend and loved life generally.I went to a natropath and got put on magnesium and a mixture of herbs to help the nervous system and they seem to be doing nothing.I seriously need some help and have no idea what to do,i can't keep putting up with this,its just not me...someone please tell me that i gets better???I feel like an addict coming off heroin!

Well i had the mirena inserted in February and was excited about the fact that i would have less bleeding and possibly no periods @ that. 6 years prior to this I had originally had the Paraguard and was very happy with it until i separated from my partner and had it removed due to a new relationship. So anyways, after my marriage the only contraceptive that we used was condoms. I pretty much got tired of doing this..so i decided to have an IUD inserted again. I had looked into the Mirena and it sounded great! Well, since February, i've had a constant bloated feeling, i've gained 6 lbs. and work out everyday with a balanced diet. I am very disgusted and just couldn't figure out what could be causing me to gain weight. Well, I'm so glad that I fell into this site. Now i know what's causing it. I also have extreme breast tenderness, acne, and joint aches. So today I set up an appointment for next week to have the Mirena removed and a Paraguard IUD inserted. I did very well with this type and am going back to it. I never had an side effects with the IUD since no hormones are involved. My periods were heavy for the first few months, but after that it wasn't bad at all. So just thought i'd share my experience..Good luck to u all.

hello all, i've been reading your stories and feel i need to write mine too. i started taking Yasmin about 4 months ago. and i really do not know what to think. i haven't put any weigh on or got acne (which were my worries) and my periods got very light and completely pain-free. i did have constant but mild headaches (which i never have) and my sex drive has gone down (never had any problem before). more importantly, emotionally i am feeling terrible. i cry non-stop and i feel totally unstable. I am going through a lot of changes in my life (change career, country, new relationship, etc) so i thought i could be just that i am feeling stressed. but i think this is more than that. my anxiety has rocketed, I never felt like this before, I have racing thoughts almost constantly, panic attacks, and something that i think it's called 'depersonalization' - has anyone got anything like this? it feels like you're looking from outside yourself, if that makes any sense...not nice at all.
as I have a tendency to feel anxious anyway I really don't know whether the pill is causing this or not, but i feel i am going mad. as i read the postings i became more worried that it might be Yasmin
i went to the doctor who suggested to carry on for a few more months to see if the symptoms go away. i followed his advice (as those days i was feeling surprisingly well, and was optimistic about it) but i am still very concerned.
also, has anyone had a really bad depression/anxiety attack when taking antibiotics + yasmin? i could have killed myself that day. felt better when i stopped taking the antibiotics.
again, is it my mind...? or is it Yasmin...?
any comments would be really great

1 week after Mirena update. I'm feeling clearer in the head. Not so much in fog now. Still having anxiety. Haven't been bleeding at all. I had it taken out right when my period ended, so maybe I won't have any until my next period is due to start. I've had a couple of cramps and I swear it was in my left ovary. It was that pinpoint of a pain that I could totally point to where it hurt. I haven't had headaches like I did for the past 3 months. I've actually gone 2 days without Tylenol. Vertigo is not as bad either. I used to hold onto the stair railing when I was going down the stops, but haven't had to do that in the last few days either. I'm not sure if I'm going to actually go through a "crash". I was so depressed for 3 months, and my mood and feelings were all over the place, so if I do go through one, I may not realize that's what it is. And I'm at 8 weeks not smoking, so I could still be going through some mild withdrawal from that.

All in all, I am feeling better. I'm sure some of that is just relief that it's gone, and the physical symptoms will soon go away too. I'm ready to get back to normal. I'm also ready to get back into a "normal" relationship with my husband. He's been great through all of this, but he has suffered also. Can't wait to have a date night, one where I feel happy and like I want to be there!!!! Will keep you up to date. Thanks for all of your stories also. It helped so much to know that I wasn't going out of my mind!!!!