well u guys are just not doing it right in order to get real result u need to use deca and winny together about 250 mg deca and 50 of winny u will see result in the first 2 weeks and the side effect STFU and stop laying u always had a little dick and u losing hair plzz get the kidds of the webb site acne is true , depression ext . and sex drive haven;t lost mine yet been on in for 6 years